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That's still BS if you ask me... As a football legend who seemed to control the entire athletic department, he should have followed up with his "superiors" to make sure that the shower incident had been handled. Joe didn't do enough. Pedo State University.

Haha, so a football coach controls the police force and judicial system... get real. The " he was the law" crap just doesn't have legs.

I am being real....I don't have blinders on. He could've made a phone call and this would've ended totally differently. I'm sorry you can't see that.

BS!

Paterno, as the leader of the football program, is held responsible for what his staff/former staff do on campus. He admitted he knew about. He admitted he should have done more. He is almost as wrong as Sandusky.

He is responsible for what his former staff does on campus? How is that remotely the responsibility of a head coach under any circumstances? Also he did make a phone call when he called the head of campus police to report the incident. At PSU the campus police acts in the same capacity as the state or local police would elsewhere with arresting and investigative power.

Do I wish he would have followed up with the CP later? Absolutely. But to say that JoePa was responsible for the actions of someone who he had no longer any authority over in any capacity lacks logic and realistic understanding of the situation. He did in fact report it within a 24-48 hour time frame of the incident.

If the now Gov of PA, then the Attorney General, had two years to investigate and could not make an arrest, how then is JoePa, a football coach, so highly responsible (having already reported it the arresting authority)for letting a sick, sick man on campus . This man was a tenured professor and by contract allowed to use the facilities he used and barring him would not be possible unless legal action took place, which I already stated the AG had two years to do so and failed.

The Attorney General knew about Sandusky, the head of campus police knew about it, the AD knew about it, the president of the university even found out. But JoePa is still the one held most responsible, despite people in higher authority and with power applicable to the situation having knowledge of the same things he did?

Again do I wish he had followed up with CP later in the process ? HELL YES! But he wouldn't have had to if other people had done what they were supposed to (as he did going UP the chain of command and alerting CP).

Any one of these men should have done more, they didn't. The completely absolve Joepa is naive, but to ruin his legacy in this manner is irresponsible and damaging to a lot more than just football in the Northeast.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7770996/in-wake-joe-paterno-death-sandusky-sex-abuse-scandal-power-struggle-spread-penn-state-state-capital

He is definitely responsible for the acts that happened in his locker room AFTER he knew about the other events. He continued to give Sandusky access and an office. Sticking ur head in the sand is not a good enough excuse!!!

Listen plain and simple: Put yourself in Joe Pa's shoes. Your at your house when a very alarmed grad student arrives to tell you he saw Sandusky, the former coach, who is entitled to his "retirement package" which includes free access to the universitys athletic department, in the shower with a boy from his charity group. He may not have gone into too much detail, but whatever the horrifying event he saw was, clearly had him distraught. Now, as a young grad with not much leeway, he's putting his
trust (and that little boys) in your hands to do the right thing. Now i get that Pa informed the higher ups of the situation, and thats okay. But what makes him completely at fault is that he continued to see that filth Sandusky around the campus. Paterno is not a stupid man and he had to have known that no action was taken. Now if that were me, I would not care about Sandusky's retirement deal, I would not care that its "not my position to take action", and while i would care about my own job at stake or the potential tarnished image of the university it WOULD NOT be enough to stop me from doing everything in my power to oust the scum and let the truth be told. Not only because its the right thing to do, but to protect future kids from the same fate. Remember Sandusky kept up his charade using kids as prey for many more years and Paterno knew what time it was. Listen I'm a huge Noles fan and if the tables were turned and it was Bobby, I would feel the exact same way. Its a shame a legend like Paterno went out like that.

What dots are you talking about, Joe told them how to handle it? I would love to see where that is documented certainly not on court records (or is it conjecture like most of the "Joe was God", Joe "gave access" to Sandusky reasoning in this thread)

THe NCAA?? hahaha, yes the NCAA investigates legal matters of this nature...........what?