Hawg Heaven

On a serious note though, they literally train almost every part of the body these days except the damn toes. Then someone is going to try to say that the only important lifts are the clean and the squat ??

Give me a break. There is a bunch of time in the weight room being WASTED if that is the case.

This guy's point was the clean and front squats were the best indicators of good football players. He said he wanted to see the chiseled chest, but that the true studs showed up in the other two lifts. He said he had hell getting players to want to clean because it was so much work.

For me squats got me a couple extra years of playing ball. Can't tell you how many times I got sick and threw up. Or couldn't get to my car until I stopped and rested.

Squats helped my stamina a bunch and made me not even feel tired when I played. I wish I had started doing legs seriously when I was in HS. Running and playing ball is much easier if you have strong legs.

1sthogfan how many strength and conditioning coaches have you talked to? You said you ask them that question and then a long pause?

The same reason you work your calf muscles, back, neck, triceps, and biceps. Are you going to say curls help you in football too? You have to work all your muscles, you can't just concentrate on just squat and clean or your other muscles would be too weak. You'd get injured quite often and much easier.