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Yeah the one thing I don't like is he says he's gonna recruit south Florida. We need to recruit Louisiana and it doesn't sound as he plans too

Madison is definitely a much larger city, it's beautiful. I loved it each time I went up for a game. As far as what can separate Arkansas, the weather is much better and it's in the SEC. It's a lot closer as well.

Arkansas' previous assistants and system could get them in the door, BP couldn't close for ANYTHING though. As high octane as that offense is, the opportunities for recruiting were missed.

..the other selling point for Arkansas is the women.

In regards to Nutt, well I'll just say that the style we played then didn't draw too much attention. The offense we had in the last 4 years turned heads and opened eyes to the program, we just couldn't capitalize on it. Houston was a MUCH MUCH more personable guy though, players loved him.

As they saying goes, "if you build it, they will come".

i almost posted this very thing last night after I read Ash talking about Florida.

Here's a simple exercise.

Get out a map.

Circle a town in South Florida.

Draw a line to Fayeteville.

Count the number of SEC schools mama has to drive by in order to get to Fayetteville to see her baby boy play.

The geography just doesn't work.

Without the map technique I've said that a million times literally. They have to pass every SEC school to get here. Fayetteville Deion time is 16 hours and 41 mins from Orlando. 16 hours 18 mins from Orlando to Columbia Missouri. Texas a&m is only 15 hours something.

People bring up Bobby P he recruited them to Louisville which is 12 hours and some mins. Some act like that's not much closer its just a half a days drive there where its a little over 2/3 of a days drive to get to Fayetteville. I realize some will say that's why they fly well plane tickets are a lot more than they use to be. A 12 hour drive sucks but parents can still come see there kids play. And get 6-8 of sleep. Now driving over 16 hours makes it where you can get 2-4 hours of sleep if you drive up here. (Not counting those hours you can sleep on the way). It's just hard to get kids to pass all those SEC & ACC schools to come to Fayetteville. I know he recruited Florida but ill go back to see how many had SEC or ACC offers.

I'm gonna see how many had offers to those programs they passed.

Madison = much bigger city than Fayetteville. More metropolitan.
Pitt = much much bigger city than Fayetteville. More metropolitan.

Do you figure those facts into your equation at all ?? If a Florida kid is going to go a LONG way from home, ie... not right next door to Auburn or Ole Miss, is he going to prefer a bigger city like Madison and Pitt or will he prefer a small town like Fayetteville ? What do you think about that ?

You will admit that the small size and location of Fayetteville is a negative overall right ? You will at least admit that it is harder to recruit to arkansas than it is some other places, won't you ?

Yeah he averaged 3 a year I posted their star ratings too but can't remember off the top of my head.

BINGO.

It isn't as simple as saying "They get 5 a year so it is worth it". It is about the equation of time/players from Florida versus time/players from Texas.

It's over simplifying things to only look at the total players signed. It's more about the time you spend there and how much time is not spent somewhere else and the respective results in both places.

You know I can't answer that....

What is your definition of a LONG way from home? By road? By plane? By boat.

By air, Madison or Pittsburgh are easier to get to from FLL than Auburn, Ole Miss or Miss St.
By ground ALL are a long ways ie: 16hrs or greater from FLL.

Can I definitively agree with your Metropolitan theory....No Can I definitively conclude that Smaller towns are preferred? No.... There are very few "small town" schools in D-1 that would be the distance of Pitt/Madison from South Florida. Too many variables to make it conclusive one way or another. Michigan and Ohio State are larger Metro than Wisconsin yet they have fewer players from South Florida...

IMO, far more important than that is the strong desire to recruit that area heavily AND most important is the relationship of the recruiter and the H.S. coaches. That IMO is a very strong reason that AR hasn't had a lot of success in S. FL.

Does the size/location of Fay. play into recruiting issues? Of course.

Vaughn didn't go to school down in South Florida.... CP did

Future will tell....without CP, I'm not very optimistic....

History is meant to be changed....with the right chemistry and coaches things can be changed...

Ie: BP taking us to a BCS bowl....that changed Razorback History...

Wisconsin Starting Offense this season.

Starting QB Curt Phillips is from Kingsport, TN. Held offers from Duke, East Carolina, Middle Tenn State, and Kentucky.

Starting RB Montee Ball is from Wentzville. MO. Held offers from Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, Northwestern, and Stanford.

Other starters are from WI(7), MD, and MI.

His QB sucked. Did you watch any of their games ?

Geez, he was bad.